The real reason why it takes so long to get your web site into DMOZ
why it takes so long to get listed in the ODP is this:
about 90 percent of the editors will sign up with a few sites in mind. First of all their own, a few friends'/clients' and also some sites which they have seen and they like.
When those editors hand pick sites, they don't always meet the guidelines. Not that they are in gross violation of guidelines, just saying naturally a ton of things get overlooked and there is absolutely no nitpicking or asking a webmaster to change things when an editor really likes the site.
Which is good ... rules are there for a reason but flexibility is what life i about as well.
NOW: why does it take so long for sites to be listed in the ODP?
because 90 percent of editors don't do anything once the sites they had in mind are listed. They do absolutely nothing or next to nothing. Leaving the ones who do work with a load of sites and submissions.
You can see a lot of them trolling around the forum resource-zone.com/forum and trolling around is exactly what it is?
Did I mention flaming? They resort to namecalling. They stoop as low as they can go. They attack people for having done multiple submissions on sites without explaining why they attack. They also don't do ANYTHING about the real reason they are overworked which is the lazy ones within their ranks. The ones who got what they wanted and then don't do anything.
I was inspired to shine some more light because a member named clubtitan.org has been in http://www.vbwebmaster.com/forums announcing how cool it is that he just became a DMOZ editor and is getting his web sites in right away. He may turn out great, he seems to be into the category he edits but let's face it:
Statistically speaking the chances are he won't be.
We hear the whining constantly about being overworked but let's not forget the real reasons and let's not shoot into the wrong directions.
It never seems to amaze me how so many editors find so much time to go on Resource Zone when they should be editing sites.
I can understand that you may burn out, especially when the initial reason for becoming an editor has been to just get a few sites in.
When I hear stories about why sites can take up to 8 months to get accepted, they want to use that to mention how overworked they are when in reality most editors sit around.
If you want to be a DMOZ editor, make sure you know what you are getting into.
If you are a DMOZ editor, quit accusing the few who make mistakes and get to the real problems.
I have seen the most cowardly behaviour I have ever witnessed online by editors talking on RZ. They will yell at you, then ban you and then still yell at you.
You should also be aware that many editors won't list their own sites, because it would be too easy doing a backlink check, finding a lot of sites link to them (good links ) which are not meeting the DMOZ guidelines whasoever.
Well ... but they are in there and I wonder why :rolleyes:
The more I want to stop talking about DMOZ the less I can.
We are being lied to and the term DMOZ is corrupt does apply in my opinion because of who has taken control.
about 90 percent of the editors will sign up with a few sites in mind. First of all their own, a few friends'/clients' and also some sites which they have seen and they like.
When those editors hand pick sites, they don't always meet the guidelines. Not that they are in gross violation of guidelines, just saying naturally a ton of things get overlooked and there is absolutely no nitpicking or asking a webmaster to change things when an editor really likes the site.
Which is good ... rules are there for a reason but flexibility is what life i about as well.
NOW: why does it take so long for sites to be listed in the ODP?
because 90 percent of editors don't do anything once the sites they had in mind are listed. They do absolutely nothing or next to nothing. Leaving the ones who do work with a load of sites and submissions.
You can see a lot of them trolling around the forum resource-zone.com/forum and trolling around is exactly what it is?
Did I mention flaming? They resort to namecalling. They stoop as low as they can go. They attack people for having done multiple submissions on sites without explaining why they attack. They also don't do ANYTHING about the real reason they are overworked which is the lazy ones within their ranks. The ones who got what they wanted and then don't do anything.
I was inspired to shine some more light because a member named clubtitan.org has been in http://www.vbwebmaster.com/forums announcing how cool it is that he just became a DMOZ editor and is getting his web sites in right away. He may turn out great, he seems to be into the category he edits but let's face it:
Statistically speaking the chances are he won't be.
We hear the whining constantly about being overworked but let's not forget the real reasons and let's not shoot into the wrong directions.
It never seems to amaze me how so many editors find so much time to go on Resource Zone when they should be editing sites.
I can understand that you may burn out, especially when the initial reason for becoming an editor has been to just get a few sites in.
When I hear stories about why sites can take up to 8 months to get accepted, they want to use that to mention how overworked they are when in reality most editors sit around.
If you want to be a DMOZ editor, make sure you know what you are getting into.
If you are a DMOZ editor, quit accusing the few who make mistakes and get to the real problems.
I have seen the most cowardly behaviour I have ever witnessed online by editors talking on RZ. They will yell at you, then ban you and then still yell at you.
You should also be aware that many editors won't list their own sites, because it would be too easy doing a backlink check, finding a lot of sites link to them (good links ) which are not meeting the DMOZ guidelines whasoever.
Well ... but they are in there and I wonder why :rolleyes:
The more I want to stop talking about DMOZ the less I can.
We are being lied to and the term DMOZ is corrupt does apply in my opinion because of who has taken control.
posted by dmozstories at 7:37 AM
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Believe it or not: I have a lot of friends who are DMOZ editors. They have been telling me all along:
"I got my sites in, I get friends and clients listed, once in a while I see a site I like and list it just to look busy. I have a job AND A LIFE and working for free is not on my agenda".
Editors on resource zone are so used to people buying their lies and sucking up to them. The apologetic behaviour from those determined to get in there. When I was on, I couldn't sit there and let others use me to lie to the public.
DMOZ is corrupt. As long as you blame webmasters for your problems, you will never fix it. It's in your own backyard DMOZ.
erm, Maybe some or even alot of the editors are like this but I know alot who certainly aren't Ive looked at the edit logs for some of the cetegories and I can see alot of webmasters who login 2-3 times a day and add/edit sites.
I also have sites related to the category I edit and I have listed all of them on my affiliations page, none of these are in dmoz yet and im not sure if I will list them at all.
That's cool, Matt. And I bet you're not the one on RZ trashing people because of the lack of anything better to do :)
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